The author behind ‘Mean Girls’ studied boys too. We should listen to what she has to say.

Author and researcher Rosalind Wiseman calls herself a listener. Intimate conversations and interviews with hundreds of teen daughters formed the basis for her make volume, “Queen Bees and Wannabes, ” about how to help teen daughters survive the wild world of high school. The book, which was eventually turned into the blockbuster movie “Mean Girls, ” was lauded for its frighteningly accurate depiction of female bullying.

By bringing an open mind to her research( she says she simply takes what young people say and translates it for adults ), she exposed some significant truths about the inner workings of “girl world” to mothers everywhere. Since the success of “Queen Bees” and “Mean Girls, ” however, Wiseman has been doing run that she argues is even more exciting and important, and that’s gotten far less attention : trying to understand adolescent and teenage boys .

It’s work that’s especially important as conversations around toxic masculinity and sexual harassment have become increasingly mainstream.

Wiseman says there are four key things she’s learned in her conversations with hundreds of our country’s future men about how we can better shape the next generation.

1. Listen to what young boys have to say.

It seems ironic, Wiseman says, to scream: “Hey, men need to have their voices heard! ” After all, men’s voices are heard almost everywhere. They quite literally get most of the speaking lines in movies( even movies about women ), they hold over 80% of the seats in Congress, and in the business world, about 95% of CEO stances are filled by men. In the case of younger humen, however, listening to what they have to say just might be the right thing to do.

“We think they talk a lot and take over a lot of space, but we don’t often ask about their sentiments, ” Wiseman explains. If we want to really make changes to the culture of masculinity as it pertains to sons, there’s really no better route to make sure we’re at the least get an accurate picture of how they find the world around them.

For her 2013 volume, “Masterminds and Wingmen” ( sort of the boy version of “Mean Girls” ), Wiseman spoke in-depth with nearly 200 teenage sons. Contrary to expectations, Wiseman says she found many were more than eager for a chance to finally share their dreads and insecurities.

There are plenty of problems with the way boys in our country are raised and problems with how we’ve defined what it means to “be a man.” But figuring out how to fix things shouldn’t be an adults-only dialogue.

As Wiseman says: “It’s absurd to me to tell boys what “peoples lives” are like without talking to them first.”

2. Don’t wait to have important conversations about what they should do if they find abuse happening around them.

“There is a minority of boys and men that, for whatever reason, feel they have a right to abuse people, ” Wiseman explains. “Through a combination of social intelligence and privilege, they know the majority of boys and young men who don’t like what they’re doing are going to be silent.”

Many mothers refuse to even consider that their own son will eventually be faced with a challenging situation — hearing his buddies trading vulgar, sexist gags, or insuring a educator have inappropriate contact with a student. They certainly don’t think he’d have no idea “what were doing” or that he might be a perpetrator himself.

The majority of teens will witness some kind of abuse of power at some phase, Wiseman says. We shouldn’t delayed until after the fact to let them know we expect them to stand up for what’s right, even if it’s hard.

“We have to look at them as partners in this, ” she says. “Tell them ‘I simply want you to be able to know where I stand and where my expectations are for you.'”

3. Now for the hard part — parents and adults have to model upstanding behavior for boys to see.

Talking the talk is easy. But strolling the stroll is what genuinely matters.

Parents frequently reach out to Wiseman with the same problem: “What if I go to[ holiday] dinner and Uncle Bob says some racist, homophobic remark? “

Let’s face it: a lot of us freeze up, change the subject, or otherwise don’t want to deal with a potential showdown, so we laugh it off or brush it under the rug.( Billy Bush, anyone ?) Then we’re shocked when sons do the same thing around friends inducing racist or sexist or homophobic comments.

It’s OK that we’re not perfect parents or role models 100% of the time, but it’s important to acknowledge those missteps to the boys who look up to us when they happen. Standing up for what’s right in the moment is the right thing to do, but it sure can be easier to wait until the car ride home to tell your kids, “Hey, you know, what Uncle Bob said wasn’t OK.”

Don’t let yourself off the hook though, Wiseman urges. When you tell your kid that what Uncle Bob did was wrong, own up to your own passiveness as well. Even a simple, “I didn’t manage that the style I should have, ” can be enough.

“Just having that conversation attains it so much more likely that your son will come to you the next time he’s in a tough situation, ” Wiseman advises.

4. Foster them to expect better of themselves.

Wiseman says one of the inherent and tragic flaws in the way America has defined masculinity is that caring about, well, pretty much anything induces you weak. And if you’re weak, you’re not really a man.

Caring about something like feminism? Sex harassment? Social justice? It can make a man an utter outcast in some social circles.

“That is a travesty, ” Wiseman laments. “I say to high school sons all the time … ‘a man of honor is someone who shuts their mouth when horrible things are going on around you? How did that become the definition of what a man is? ‘”

“I wouldn’t put up with that if I were you, ” she tells them. “You’re better than this; you’re stronger than this.”

In response, she sees them sit up a little taller and stand a little prouder. It’s something they don’t hear enough.

13 years later, people are still talkingabout “Mean Girls” and what it says about how our society treats girls. Let’s hope Wiseman’s work on “boy world” has the same kind of effect.

Young men aren’t always going to do the right thing. They’ll fold under the pressure of having to stand up to their best friend. They’ll laugh at an offensive gag. They’ll build mistakes.

And so will we, as teachers, parents, and role models.

“We have to acknowledge that we suck, ” Wiseman concludes.

“We have to say to boys, ‘Hey, I get that I’m holding you to a high standard. I understand that you don’t have a lot of good role models.’ It doesn’t mean we’re going to give up.”

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